Comments on: Na'vi language code

By: Omängum Fra'uti

Omängum Fra'uti — Wed, 05 May 2010 19:47:58 +0000

Until it is formally adopted by SIL, it would be premature to change it to anything. I do think “nvi” is a likely candidate but in the end it is up to SIL to determine what will be assigned. However it would be ISO 639-3 ONLY. ISO 639-2 is maintained by the Library of Congress and has a higher requirement for acceptance, namely it must have a more significant body of published work (50 total within up to 5 different institutions). And of course it must be an ISO 639-3 language before it can be accepted in ISO 639-2. If Na’vi ever meets that higher standard, it would not be for awhile.

By: admin

admin — Wed, 05 May 2010 19:12:24 +0000

Nice background Omängum! Thank you. Since we are making a guess right now, and Nav is already taken by Navaho, do you think we should propose NVI and then edit the Wiktionary entry to match, citing Mightyverse as a precedent?

If so, would the codes be more like these?:
ISO 639-1: n/a
ISO 639-2: nvi
ISO 639-3: nvi
RFC3066 : art-nvi

By: Omängum Fra'uti

Omängum Fra'uti — Wed, 05 May 2010 06:46:42 +0000

My understanding of the process for adopting ISO 639-3 codes, the pending applications get reviewed and adopted or rejected once a year at the beginning of the year. Prior to that they are put up for a review period of 3 months for people to submit comments. So the basic result is a request to include a language must be submitted by October to be considered for the coming review. It seems nobody working on Avatar thought to do that, and the language didn’t really get publicity until November/December. So perhaps even if it had been submitted, it might have been rejected at that point, due to having almost no public material, despite the goal of SIL to have a comprehensive list of languages.

Looking through the history of ISO 639-3 requests, there are very few constructed languages represented, and most of them are aux languages like Esperanto or research languages. The only purely fictional/entertainment languages included are Klingon, Tolkein’s Quenyan and Sindarin, and Láadan. The request form is quite accommodating to constructed languages, so it seems more to be a lacking of conlangers knowing about the process, believing there language is notable enough to go through the process, or even considering it worth it to bother. Perhaps a combination.

Na’vi is no exception. At this point, to my knowledge, nobody has submitted a request to create a new code for Na’vi. However, as Spring turns to Summer and Paul Frommer finishes with the last of the semesters responsibilities for teaching, that may change.